Solved Deployables Can Be Placed Sideways or Flipped on Walls

[Wild Shadow]

Hi VisEntities,

Already a very good plugin, I had a question about the stability option?

Is there a way to block stability for deployables but not for constructions?


just to avoid this:

Have a good end of the day!

Shad

 

[Wild Shadow]

Hi,


I'm back on the stability topic, but with a different problem this time! I noticed an issue on my server: a player managed to place entities on the ceiling or walls of a base that wasn't in the jungle or built on a tree. The server stability setting was, of course, set to server.stability true.

I investigated possible plugin conflicts, but after removing yours, the problem no longer occurred.

So far, this has only happened to one player.

For security reasons, I had to temporarily disable the plugin while waiting for your response.

Thank you and have a good weekend.


Shad.


capture the player's base:

 

[VisEntities]

I'm back on the stability topic, but with a different problem this time! I noticed an issue on my server: a player managed to place entities on the ceiling or walls of a base that wasn't in the jungle or built on a tree. The server stability setting was, of course, set to server.stability true.

Sounds like the plugin didn't remove the player's building privilege when they left the tree build zone, which let them keep building there. Do you remember anything specific about that player? Like did they disconnect, teleport, or maybe the server restarted? Any of that could help me figure out why it didn't catch them leaving the zone and remove the privilege properly

 

[Wild Shadow]

Sounds like the plugin didn't remove the player's building privilege when they left the tree build zone, which let them keep building there. Do you remember anything specific about that player? Like did they disconnect, teleport, or maybe the server restarted? Any of that could help me figure out why it didn't catch them leaving the zone and remove the privilege properly

Hi Dana, there was no restart, I'll check with him for disconnections/teleportation, but what seems strange to me is that I don't see his steam id in the claim tree in data.

I'll get back to you when I have more information on the actions taken before he could be without stability.

Happy Sunday,


Shad

 

[Wild Shadow]

Well, I saw the player, no teleportation or disconnection.

I'll try to reset the data. To be continued.

 

[Papster]

This was an issue on my server as well. The player who first discovered it had never built a tree house and his base was nowhere near the jungle. I suspect it just got missed but I first reported my experience at the end of August in the beta thread

 

[Wild Shadow]

Hi VisEntities,

Already a very good plugin, I had a question about the stability option?

Is there a way to block stability for deployables but not for constructions?


just to avoid this:
View attachment 979


Have a good end of the day!

Shad

Hello, I'm returning to the original topic of this discussion.

I'm still having stability issues. I find it frustrating that players can place objects on walls. Do you plan to work on this in the future, or is it impossible?

Also, when bases decay or are raided, structures/items remain suspended in mid-air. Do you think you'll be able to do anything about this in the future ?

Thank you,

-Shad

 

[VisEntities]

I find it frustrating that players can place objects on walls. Do you plan to work on this in the future, or is it impossible?

I'll take a look and see what I can do

 

[VENIQQ]

Hey,
1) Deployables can be placed sideways - can anything be done to fix that?
2) We have a planting plugin (Place Anything) that allows to plant trees, including vine treees) - After plugin reload it sometimes allows to claim those treees, so players can stack the buildings vertically. Anything we can do to prevent that? I've tried adding vine trees to blocked prefab list - no luck.
3) When building foundation disappears, the rest of the building still hangs in the air

See attached vide with examples
https://youtu.be/jzcBG9l5mHM

 

[VENIQQ]

4) When stability enabled in config - it allows to build only 3 floors up

 

[VisEntities]

1) Deployables can be placed sideways - can anything be done to fix that?

That's just how it works with freebuild enabled in the tree zone. I'm testing a little workaround for it

2) We have a planting plugin (Place Anything) that allows to plant trees, including vine treees) - After plugin reload it sometimes allows to claim those treees, so players can stack the buildings vertically. Anything we can do to prevent that? I've tried adding vine trees to blocked prefab list - no luck.

I think you might want to add the item you're initially placing, the seed prefab. Since the vine tree itself gets spawned afterward and isn't placed directly by the player. Give that a try?

4) When stability enabled in config - it allows to build only 3 floors up

Like is Disable Stability Inside Tree Build Zones set to true or false?

If it's set to false, Rust's default stability rules kick in, so players need to build supports to go higher
If it's true, they can build freely within the tree zone without worrying about that

 

[VisEntities]

I have added a workaround for the issue where items could be placed sideways, upside down, or on invalid surfaces. It's not perfect, but it's a big improvement over before

Floor-only items like furnaces, small boxes, workbenches, etc., should no longer be placeable on ceilings or walls by default

For items that are meant to be placed on walls or ceilings (like lights or signs), you'll need to configure them yourself using two new config options:

"Deployables Allowed On Walls (partial match)": [
  "tunalight",
  "sign",
  "picture",
  "spinner",
  "neonsign",
  "flasherlight",
  "sirenlight",
  "searchlight",
  "simplelight",
  "smart.alarm",
  "doorbell"
],
"Deployables Allowed On Ceilings (partial match)": [
  "lantern",
  "ceilinglight",
  "chandelier"
]

I have already included the most common ones in the default config

 

[Wild Shadow]

I have added a workaround for the issue where items could be placed sideways, upside down, or on invalid surfaces. It's not perfect, but it's a big improvement over before

Floor-only items like furnaces, small boxes, workbenches, etc., should no longer be placeable on ceilings or walls by default

For items that are meant to be placed on walls or ceilings (like lights or signs), you'll need to configure them yourself using two new config options:

"Deployables Allowed On Walls (partial match)": [
  "tunalight",
  "sign",
  "picture",
  "spinner",
  "neonsign",
  "flasherlight",
  "sirenlight",
  "searchlight",
  "simplelight",
  "smart.alarm",
  "doorbell"
],
"Deployables Allowed On Ceilings (partial match)": [
  "lantern",
  "ceilinglight",
  "chandelier"
]

I have already included the most common ones in the default config

Wonderful, thank you for listening!

 

[Wild Shadow]

Small update:

Can you make the shortnames work properly? Some objects can’t be authorized correctly, such as gunrack. I’ve tried using gunrack and gunrack.realshortname, but partial matching creates issues. For example, I want to allow connected.speaker but not spookyspeaker, which means I can’t simply allow "speaker".

  "Deployables Allowed On Walls (partial match)": [
    "connected.speaker",
    "gunrack",
    "gunrack.horizontal",
    "gunrack_tall.horizontal",
    "gunrack_wide.horizontal",
    "gunrack.single.1.horizontal",
    "gunrack.single.2.horizontal",
    "electric.blocker",
    "electric.random.switch",
    "stocking.small",
    "connected.speaker",
    "gunrack.single.3.horizontal",
    "half.bamboo.shelves",

There are likely more items that haven’t surfaced yet.


I advise against using "sign" as a generic rule, since it would allow items such as "sign.post.town" or "sign.post.town.roof". The same applies to "lantern": you should explicitly include "chineselanternwhite" and "chineselantern" if you don’t want players placing lanterns or jack-o-lanterns on ceilings.


One more suggestion: adding a ground-placement blacklist for items would be extremely helpful.

Here is the list of items I have authorized, for those who wish to use them:

  "Deployables Allowed On Walls (partial match)": [
    "blocker",
    "button",
    "coffin",
    "coffin.storage",
    "connected.speaker",
    "doorbell",
    "dropbox",
    "electric.andswitch",
    "electric.blocker",
    "electric.button",
    "electric.counter",
    "electric.digitalclock",
    "electric.fairylights",
    "electric.fluorescentlight",
    "electric.hbhfsensor",
    "electric.heater",
    "electric.igniter",
    "electric.laserdetector",
    "electric.memorycell",
    "electric.random.switch",
    "electric.seismicsensor",
    "electric.simplelight",
    "electric.sirenlight",
    "electric.splitter",
    "electric.sprinkler",
    "electric.spotlight",
    "electric.switch",
    "electric.teslacoil",
    "electric.timer",
    "electric.wallcabinet",
    "electric.xorswitch",
    "electrical.branch",
    "electrical.combiner",
    "electrical.memorycell",
    "flasherlight",
    "fluid",
    "fluid.combiner",
    "fluid.splitter",
    "fluid.switch",
    "frontiermirror.large",
    "frontiermirror.medium",
    "frontiermirror.small",
    "frontiermirror.standing",
    "goldframe.large",
    "goldframe.medium",
    "goldframe.small",
    "goldframe.standing",
    "goldmirror.landscape",
    "goldmirror.large",
    "goldmirror.medium",
    "goldmirror.small",
    "goldmirror.standing",
    "gunrack",
    "gunrack.horizontal",
    "gunrack.single.1.horizontal",
    "gunrack.single.2.horizontal",
    "gunrack.single.3.horizontal",
    "gunrack.horizontal",
    "gunrack_tall.horizontal",
    "gunrack_wide.horizontal",
    "half.bamboo.shelves",
    "hbhf",
    "industrial.wall",
    "industrial",
    "laserlight",
    "laser",
    "lightstring",
    "lightupframe",
    "lightupframe.large",
    "lightupframe.medium",
    "lightupframe.small",
    "lightupframe.standing",
    "lightupmirror.large",
    "lightupmirror.medium",
    "lightupmirror.small",
    "lightupmirror.standing",
    "neonsign",
    "picture",
    "rug",
    "rug.bear",
    "sign.hanging",
    "sign.hanging.banner.large",
    "sign.hanging.ornate",
    "sign.neon.xl.animated",
    "sign.pictureframe",
    "sign.pictureframe.landscape",
    "sign.pole.banner.large",
    "sign.wooden.huge",
    "sign.wooden.large",
    "sign.wooden.large",
    "sign.wooden.medium",
    "simplelight",
    "sirenlight",
    "smart.alarm",
    "smart.switch",
    "soundlight",
    "spinner",
    "stocking.small",
    "switch",
    "timer",
    "torchholder",
    "tunalight",
    "wantedposter",
    "xmas.lightstring",
    "xmas.lightstring.advanced"
  ],
  "Deployables Allowed On Ceilings (partial match)": [
    "ceilinglight",
    "chandelier",
    "chineselantern",
    "chineselanternwhite",
    "discoball",
    "electric.andswitch",
    "electric.blocker",
    "electric.bulbstringlights",
    "electric.chandelier",
    "electric.fairylights",
    "electric.flasherlight",
    "electric.fluorescentlight",
    "electric.fluorescentlight.ceiling",
    "electric.hbhfsensor",
    "electric.igniter",
    "electric.laserdetector",
    "electric.orswitch",
    "electric.random.switch",
    "electric.sprinkler",
    "electric.xorswitch",
    "electrical.branch",
    "electrical.combiner",
    "electrical.memorycell",
    "fluid.combiner",
    "fluid.splitter",
    "fluid.switch",
    "hbhf",
    "industrial",
    "laser",
    "rug",
    "rug.bear"
  ]
}